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Doodles of potential characters for LASALLE. The major project requires producing a one-minute short featuring one bipedal character, it's a throw-down between upright-walking ferrets or plague doctors.

All characters and artwork © Shamine Athena King
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NoisyBunny Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Did you ever post this? I really wanna see it xD
Rudywolf Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
looks like the healers of assasins creed
Kildiazar Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2012
That is cute!
Shidyk Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I love this. :D
Aouros Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2012
Black humor will always be good in my book.
But it's your choice, not mine.
StumpyTheStump Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2012  Student Writer
I will steal all of your skills.
Thaddeus-Mongoose Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2011
well done, the mongoose or ferret's facial expresion is.... that's all Ive got.
LadyCodex Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
I love this especially the ferret :)
brittybritt16 Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2011
I think the doctors look cooler :)
brittybritt16 Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2011
I fail at comment posts >.< not quite sure how my computer posted that comment here as opposed to the "Take your pick" picture o_0 Anyways, I love your art style! :)
brittybritt16 Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2011 computer is just posting this comment everywhere i guess :XD:
emos-at-JTHM Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2011
The doctor one sounds interesting. I'd like to see that one. Not too sure on the ferret though... As you said, unless there was some way you could jazz it up.
Idk, just my Opinion. Xp
Erknen Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Why not do both?
MonochromeDestiny Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Haha that's brilliant. XD Wonderful work!
ShadowOfNights Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
Fight fight fight fight! 8D I put my money on the doctor. He'll figure a way to get into your head and stay there. XD
MolecularMachine Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2011  Student General Artist
I'd say go for the doctor. The more artsy-fartsy the better.
ShadOBabe Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I vote ferret. Mostly because well, I LOVE that ferret!!
And I would love to see him animated. <3
Mutedmirth Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I think you should do the doc's since the ferret one sounds pretty generic. You want something to stand out with.
mankeymunkey Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2011  Student Filmographer
TwinVampire Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
OneSlyPanda Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
if you really cant decide perhaps you could do something with both? or maybe you had that idea already and I'm just repeating it. sorry if thats the case lol.
xXWonkaBarXx Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
whatever idea feels more interesting you should definitely do, even if the doctor's plot is only 20 seconds long, you can just brainstorm more ideas onto the short, making it even better!
Lionstar123 Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2011
Lol angry ferret! I love the design and outfit! The doctor reminds me of the doctors in Assassin's Creed 2. I love that game so much! X3

AC= love!
ikarus-exe Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh man, I really do like that ferret's design... But AGH the plague doctor's sounds so entertaining. Which one would be easier? :o
haichiko Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2011
I love the plague docter cause he reminds me of my favourite game, assassins creed. but I love the ferret. so it's a though one
Dreaming-Rose-6991 Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Doctor. Don't get me wrong, the ferret story looks good, because who isn't attracted to the idea of an intelligent ferret thief, but I'm liking the idea of black humour and the Doctor strikes me as the kind of person to have a more interesting feel about him.

I think it's the mask. I like masks.

There is, however, the time issue which makes it difficult. You'd have to fiddle around with the plot and see if you can find a way to lengthen it but one minute can be a long time.

Either way, good luck and I'm sure you'll do great.
Page-Mistress Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2011
Hooray for intelligent ferrets!
AnonymousSong Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2011
I wanna say plague doctor because all your amazing fanart made me fall in love I love plague doctors. BUT THAT FERRET IS SO CUTE. xD It's tail~ Adorable~
And lol, for whatever reason, a sneak in mission just made me think that the ferret, that I have named Walden in my mind, sneaks in, messes things up, is about to leave but sees another ferret in a cage and makes a split second decision to free it. And thus, there were two ferret thieves! Lolol, idk. <3
HyperFiend Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2011
XD Plague Doctor, because there needs to be more plague doctor things out there in the world. <3
Falconsong Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2011  Professional General Artist
I'd go for the plague doctor myself. You've mentioned it's a second year project for a one minute short. This is a major undertaking and simplifying that undertaking to make it more manageable is key. The doctor would be easier to animate than the ferret- He's got a mask vs the ferret having a face which cuts down on the amount of facial animation you'd have to do. The ferret has clothing AND a tail (read: Extra limb to animate) whereas the doc just has clothing. The added limb (tail) and added facial expressions make the ferret more difficult and time consuming and would mean you'd have less opportunity to focus on performance since you'd have to work on facial performance as well. I'd go for the plague doctor.

(I've done animation before with some large companies and this is how we determine what we're going to do. For our animations the large companies usually limited us to non deforming characters, such as robots or toys instead of dogs or people, in order to simplify the animation. This allowed us to be able to complete the project in a short time frame, often a few months for a minute of fully rendered CG.)
Quarter-Virus Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2011  Professional Filmographer
Ironically, my professors didn't seem to bothered about the tail when I mentioned my concerns about it, because overall the ferret gives me more opportunity to show off that "hey, look, I can animate!" portfolio. The doctor mostly just walks or stalks around. However, they preferred his storyline despite the lack of acting ... and because of that are advising me to do the thief one, in order to stretch my ability - or lack thereof - to think of original ideas.
Falconsong Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2011  Professional General Artist
Awesome, sounds like it's going to be fun and interesting to do. Good luck with it!
Windmaedchen Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2011  Professional General Artist
That is something I agree with. Mostly. But it sounds to limiting. Of course companies want to save time and money and therefore want the animation to be as limited as possible but ... being a student and having the time and possibilities I would rather go for something complicated with lots of facial stuff and movement and secondary action. Just to have made the experience. Surely you have to know yourself and how much you can do in that time (time management is without a question the most important thing in order to succeed, whatever was planned) but even if it is not going to be as good as you wanted it to be... as long as I am student I would rather try different things than to go and do the limited versions from the beginning. Seek the challenge!
Falconsong Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2011  Professional General Artist
I can see where you're coming from, since I am a student myself (working on my masters thesis in film/animation) but I don't agree with your assumtion that "limit your workload" as I was suggesting means that you're taking away the challenge. Funny, I was thinking about this comment I left last night as I was reading a book for my work. I ran across some info in it that described what I was trying to say:
"There is nothing wrong with challenging yourself, just be sure that when you begin the process you have factored in your abilities and the amount of time you have to complete your task." - 3D Character Setup by Michael ford and Alan Lehman pg 56.

A challenge is good and something you want, but you have to be realistic about your time frame and constraints. What is the goal? Is it to create a rough animation? To create a finished animation? To learn facial animation? Action animation? Learn to convey emotion through gestures? Since the goal here seems to be to create a full animation, start to finish, with one bipedal character I assume the main focus is on conveying the character through action. To do this with the ferret would take more time than it would with the doctor and you want to spend more of your time making the animation on the actions strong instead of wasting time animating unneeded extras like face or tail. If part of the goal were to display talent at facial animation or versatility with quadruped to biped characters (it's not, the stipulation was biped- Quadruped is harder and takes twice as long which is why my professors usually vetoed quad or deformable chars when we started animating) then I'd say go for the ferret.

There's a difference between "seeking a challenge" and not being able to asses a job while knowing your limits and being unable to complete the task given. You can limit the character down to the very basics and still get a challenge out of it AND complete the task given- in this case, assuming the doctor, conveying a performance through a character that has no facial expressions, all physical performance and nuance. In actuality this is a far bigger animation challenge than with the ferret!
Windmaedchen Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2011  Professional General Artist
You're right. I think I wasn't exact enough and probably haven't even been thinking properly before writing. I totally agree with you now. I am animation student myself and already did a 90 sec short film. Of course eveything totally depends on what you want to focus on, if you want a calm convincing performance or some action scenes, you can always make it a challenge or not. I remember my characters had tails which I left out later while animating because it would have taken to long... it didn't matter for the story or the characters but it was reducing the challenge I had given myself in the beginning.
I think what I wanted to say (or what I want to say now, after I have seen your well written answer) is that... she should make a plan of something she can realistically achieve in that time and then go and add her challenges on top, whatever they may be. I am not sure if I can describe this so well, but I keep trying to push myself to my limits and I see university as a place where I can try things and am allowed to fail to some extent. If that tail I had planned doesn't fit anymore then leave it out and I am back to my original plan, time management failure. I learn more of failing ( a little) something than actually succeeding in it. Of course other people see it different, and maybe have to see it differently. If I had failed or not I still had a first, others might have to be seriously worried about their marks. I don't think Sak has that problem though.
MuffinOfMagic Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
You should totally go with the ferret. It would be original, considering ferrets are under-used.

(Besides, what would your teacher think if he/she saw the doctor one?)
Quarter-Virus Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2011  Professional Filmographer
They preferred the doctor and told me to change the animal for the ferret idea, actually.
Kitashki Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2011
I love plague doctors. So I say go with the plague doctor.
I dressed up as one last Halloween, and many people asked what I was. This would be a good chance for you to educate people. :3
Panthersprite Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2011
You should figure out a way to use both. It would be interesting to see just what you do with the ferret an doctor if they were stuck together in the flash somehow.
sidney-vicious Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2011  Student Interface Designer
I like the doctor! :) His design is cool, and I like the 'black humor' idea. It's not the first thing people would come up with using, and with the design of his character it would make it that much more entertaining. Although I do like the ferret as well, he looks like he'd be a lot of fun, too. :)
Nidana Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
or how the ferret-thief took the good doctors something something.
Nidana Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
use both.
joltyness Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2011  Professional Filmographer
Ferret. Simpler shapes, capable of a wider range of acting.
blackangel-alex123 Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2011
ferret needs 2 be in assassin's creed revaluations .....
SupaSupaKawaiiDesu Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2011
Reminds me of Assassin's Creed.
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Zerasu Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2011  Student Digital Artist
Ferret. <3
TheBlack-Kat Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2011  Student Filmographer
The ferret is awesome, I love him! Makes me think of Brian Jaques.

Advice :- simple story is best, even if it is a bit linear, and focus on character. Especially if you're having trouble with the other storline (though it does sound interesting).
Toruke Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2011
Maybe you could combine them? Make the story about the doctor and let him keep a pet ferret that... Steals the medicines he needs to cure people because he doesn't have any money. He can be one of those unofficial doctors that has to sneak around to help the people in his family/town/any afflicted person. Maybe the suit can just keep him hidden?

You could also get more mix-y with it and make the doctor a giant ferret disguised in the human world doing something or other. Or he can be a rat that takes healthy people and makes them sick under the belief that he's just checking to see if they have the plague. Maybe he could plant infected bugs into homes or lead rats into store rooms. It could represent how fast the plague went. He'd just go from town to town infecting the residents and then leaving just as quietly as he came in. His guise as a doctor could probably keep him from being accused of bringing the plague himself. Maybe he could blame some people for witchcraft.

Or instead of making the doctor a rat you can make his patients that way. Maybe all of the sick can start to look like rats and all the healthy stay human. Maybe at one point someone could come to his home half a rat?

Just some random suggestions. I thought you had a good idea set up. I can't really give any ideas on making just a doctor story longer without actually seeing what you have so far (I'm just not good without a base). I'm also not sure how to spice up a story about a ferret thief.

Sorry about the add-on to the overflow of suggestions (about 104 so far I think). I just thought I'd offer up a bit of help. Good luck on your projects, hopefully you'll come up with an idea that'll get you high marks.
Raist-Majere Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Doctor FTW
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