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Location Sketches - Tortuga and Co by Quarter-Virus Location Sketches - Tortuga and Co by Quarter-Virus
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WARNING: OLD ART!! The art and comments in this Deviation may no longer represent the artist's current views or interests.

Homework for LASALLE College of the Arts: Early concepts when I tried combining 18th Century cities with riotious modern locations such as Bangkok.


--Sak
All characters and artwork © Shamine Athena King
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Shadow-Of-Nights Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Old concepts pictures are the best! :D They're the ultimate doodle dumps.
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jazzknh Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012
Woohoo for lgbtq pirates!
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ava-ire Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
lesssbiaan pirates yes good
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GuoBia Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2012
I honestly have no clue where you got the idea that Bangkok is some sort of liberal San Francisco-esque "haven" for sexual minorities or something. That notion is utterly ridiculous.

omg I love your landscape designs! They've got major character.
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Quarter-Virus Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2012  Professional Filmographer
I wonder if it has something to do with me having been there and living a mere one hour flight away ... oh, well. My mistake. Obviously I was visiting the wrong Bangkok.
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GuoBia Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2012
Maybe not so much the wrong Bangkok- just the wrong and very minority part. I've lived here since I was born (except for education) and I'm not sure which part of Bangkok you're visiting, but I'm wondering if it's very representative of Bangkok.

I think your view of Bangkok is a little bit at odds of the experience of living as a queer in this city, but that's just from my perspective. It's one thing to be a tourist, it's another to be a resident. I don't know if you can speak Thai fluently or not, but in the case you can't, I

Sure, there are nice little accepting groups here and there like in any big city, but that's like visiting RIS in its heydey and saying that the people of Thailand speak English very well.

There is truth to your views though- Bangkok is certainly a haven for foreign LGBT people. It's completely okay to be white and openly gay. That's 100% fine and no one will think you any less for it, because they're farang. It's like being an exchange student- I got in trouble for "backtalk" but exchange students don't- it's excusable because they're foreign and white.

Any way it goes, let's put it this way: I'm closeted, I'm going to STAY closeted, and when the time comes, I'm going to marry a man, no question about it. This is the situation for many of us, in the 'haven.'
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Quarter-Virus Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2012  Professional Filmographer
It seems to be a lot more open than other parts of the world, which I thought was strange at first because I understand Asia as being a lot more conservative than the west in most respects. I live in Singapore and have visited, and know plenty of people who go to Bangkok often (been here 7 years) but nowhere is perfect. That said, this pseudo-modern Tortuga is supposed to be a radical exaggeration; I use Bangkok as a point of reference only.
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GuoBia Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012
Goodness, I'm sorry about the post under this one- I think it's mutually beneficial to ignore everything in English in it! I don't know what's gotten into me. That's uncalled for of me, drabbling on and on about society like that.

I definitely see how Bangkok can appear that way to a tourist and foreigner, and in a time like this, it's not right for me to be saying anything that hurts our image.

Bangkok is very open and embraces diversity and tolerance in visitors, and is very progressive compared to China and Malaysia.
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Quarter-Virus Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2012  Professional Filmographer
No, it's alright, it's interesting to hear about the "other" side of Thailand, which in the end is just like every other country in the world. The difference is when someone steps on your toes because of how you think in the west you're not as likely to get thrown into jail for it; I live in Singapore and have to watch what I say about the government here; my teacher is concerned about my animation because it addresses homosexuality in a country that likes to pretend it doesn't exist, or regards it as immoral or wrong.

But again, Bangkok was just a reference point from an aesthetics point of view. On the front Tortuga is meant to be fun, bright, vivacious, which is what Bangkok is to an outsider that's never been there before. It has its clubs and its lights, but it's also a pirate port, which means there are shootouts and violent disagreements all the time. It's not just Bangkok I'm referencing, Las Vegas and other cities like that as well, but Bangkok is the only one I've been to so I associate more with it (also to a western/European audience Asia is much more exotic and "spicy" than, say, Las Vegas. Tortuga having an Asian edge immediately makes it more of a rarity in the Colonial Caribbean).

Thanks for the insight nonetheless. It's a shame to hear that this close-mindedness really does permeate around the globe, and that it has to affect so many people as a result.
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GuoBia Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012
คุณไม่ได้อยู่เมืองไทยนานพอท่ีจะเข้าใจเมืองไทยได้อย่างลึกซึ้งตามท่ีคุณอวดอ้าง คุณคงได้แต่อ่าน น.ส.พ. ภาษาอังกฤษ และเชื่อทุกอย่างตามนั้นโดยไม่ได้วิเคราะห์ด้วยตัวคุณเอง.

Well, diversity and tolerance doesn't come to mind when I think of living in Bangkok. I definitely understand how it seems that way, and I also think that that is a view we encourage as our world image- "Doesn't matter who you are, come visit Thailand." It's a mask, and it works for us. But Bangkok is only the pinnacle of progressiveness when you compare it to Malaysia. We love our homogeneity. Everyone wants to fit in with their group, not break out alone. Media tells a lot about a society, and look at ours. A lot of music reviews in the US are about "refreshingly new style" or "groundbreaking, novel use of sound," or how the musician is doing something different from the rest. You don't really see that lauded here. We don't actually like people being totally different than the mainstream...

Plenty of people go to Bangkok often. They come here to let loose steam, to party hard and have fun- not to work, fit in, or have a family. They're outside of our society and not held by it. They dip in, experience our "exotic carefree culture," and then go back. Half my condo's filled with rich people from somewhere else who come here sometimes to have fun. Their experiences are a great deal different than ours- we work here, live here, have families here- our everything is here, and this is our society. They have nothing but praise for Thai people, saying we're so welcoming, generous, and friendly, (they clearly have not met my extended family,) and they'd love to go back next vacation. But we're not Danny Boyle's 'The Beach,' and we're not Murray Head's song "Night in Bangkok" or something.

You're right that Asia is a lot more conservative than the West, and beyond the the government, the society as whole, it's all quite conservative. I mean, imagine if They had tried half this stuff on America. There'd be bloody murder, but in Thailand? No, we figured that we don't really need our freedom of speech because fighting for it could get you into an uncomfortable situation. IE jail. Even my classmates didn't care beyond an academic argument here and there. You have to be careful what you say. And Thai people don't really like changing things... The status quo is nice and tidy, after all. I read in an etiquette book that if everyone else likes something, you'd better pretend to like it too. I can't say how true it is for here.

I'm really sorry for disagreeing with you. I like your art a lot and I think your characters are so vivid, lively, and hilarious. But Bangkok is my home and even if I'm not always proud of it, imagine if you were German, and someone describes your country as the birthplace of Harry Potter and known for its Vienna sausages and World War I. You are right that Bangkok is a great place for white LGBT tourists with strong currency. I think that Bangkok (not the tourist Bangkok- the one where Thai people live and work), as a reference point, might have a great deal more in common with the Commodore than the pirates.
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EsenEcho Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2012  Student Filmographer
How did you learn to draw buildings? Was it all observation, or did you have instruction?
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Quarter-Virus Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Observation.
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AnimeFfan Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2012
OMG I LOVE CAPTAIN FABULOUS! thrs something abt his chrcter tt made me very attracted to him like all the other anime guys! Like Mephisto from Ao No Exorcist! seriously love your works! HEHE imma girl but i like boys tt are gay in comics and othr stuffs :> LOVE HOW YOU CREATED HIM AND THE SETTINGS! reminded me abt Pirates of the Caribbean haaaaah~~~~ :3 lovely works! so creative too do a tutorial on how you draw faces and hands! heehehe
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SzejdiAkhanta Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh God... Those buildings are so amazing ;u;
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MarieBlack07 Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012  Student Digital Artist
This concepts are absolutely amazing. well done. your things are always superb
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blackthornsos Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2012
oh please let there be a disney ending *already attatched to these charactors*
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borbonhocas Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2012  Student Artist
i really like ur style


... and thats it XD
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jewlogic Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2012
i am all for lesbian pirates

MAKE IT SO
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Quarter-Virus Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2012  Professional Filmographer
SETTING COURSE, CAPTAIN.
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jewlogic Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2012
YUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSss
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Cuffermix Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2012
I love me some pirate lesbians.
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DasWeisseKaninchen Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2012
Just read the shock ending... god this is depressing :/ and i am a horrible person for saying that but reading such a thing would be interesting.. but so would be the other endings ;)
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JDLuvaSQEE Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Bang-yuga. :rofl: love it!!
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Herebellama Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Buildings always leave me wondering where to start. Could you spare any suggestions/tips on how to get the creative mind flowing in an area you're weak at and has quite a ridged structure? (Besides the obvious look at real life.)

I love your buildings, something about thw turtle 'Welcome to Tortuga' sign really appeals to me, and the 'Looks like Vegas' market building with the fish. Makes me wanna live there. :D
Also like your lesbian pirates. XD

All those notes! Almost makes me want to start the grind of my course already.
Could also have a semi-happy ending which wasn't so Disney where he just gets back on the boat and leaves - insted of hugs and making ameands. Just a suggestion.
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Quarter-Virus Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2012  Professional Filmographer
That story has since been scrapped, so I don't need to worry about the endings to much. I couldn't help you much on buildings though, sorry. For the pirate setting I took a lot of my influence from Pirates of the Burning Sea, a game that I played for a while, but I tried to keep it historically accurate as well. The idea to mosh it with Bangkok was because of music, which is where most of my inspiration comes from. One Night In Bangkok by Vynlshakerz was on my mp3 player and it stuck, since Louis is a bit of a party animal.
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Herebellama Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Hmm music is a pretty good starting point. I'll try that next time I'm faced with designing buildings - it may inspire me to look in the right direction. Thank you for the help. :)

*looks up song out of simple curiousity*
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BurgundyConfusion Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2012
Do the shock ending!
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Mousenibbles Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2012  Student Artisan Crafter
I love how there's "bisexual"- and then I look over and there's "hispanic?" XD
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CharlieK-33 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I love your Lesbian pirates. Cant wait to see if they pop up again, really hoping they will.
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CsNsAi Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2012
Hmmmmm, I like the open ending and the disney ending. If there is a point to art is to teach and nurture people. So the shocking ending? hmmmmm... there isn't really a point for such a negative message.
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Quarter-Virus Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2012  Professional Filmographer
I think there is. If you consider the level of abuse people will exact upon gay people having them killed is exactly what's going on today. Gay people have been beaten, tortured, and even murdered because of their sexuality. In Uganda they have witch-hunts for gays and lesbians, fired on by the fanatical church.
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CsNsAi Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2012
I know that "showing" (even thou this would be a fictional case) such reality is a way to spread awareness, having in your hands the chance to control the development of such a story gives you the opportunity to crate and show a different kind of solution, as an artist and story teller.
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Quarter-Virus Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Which is exactly the route this train of thought took me. As the comments state, this was one of the earlier concepts. The options for where the animation could go have since changed.
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trulyquixotical Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2012
Derpy First Mate wins out for cuteness over the little girl.

Just...d'awwww
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SwiftStarLight Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
This is fantastic! There are no words for your level of talent.
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Zelarkian Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
"bisezzual" hahaha
I love all of these concepts <3
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annaannad693 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2012  Student General Artist
All of these are absolutely amazing.
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Ez-ra Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ooh these designs are gorgeous!
That is an interesting concept :D I can wait to see what else you do with it!
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Gellyh Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2012  Student Digital Artist
My lord, it's even more fabulous than I imagined it to be! Major approval. You know what else has got my major approval? That bisexual pirate chick~

Hy there babeh~
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Miss-Dutch Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow, those buildings are gorgeous!
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iguanablogger Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I feel so privileged to be able to look at these, like I'm seeing the blueprints to some great animated feature :omg: ...

On a different note, LESBIAN PIRATES PLEASE! PLEASE!
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CidSin Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2012  Hobbyist
very very nice designs o.o i will look forward to the neyt sketches or full coloured ones! :love:
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SylvanLore Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2012
Bangkok. Bang-cock!

Fantastic work!
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iloveanime1998 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
im so jelly of ur drawing skills XD

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Awesomeness, you're just so amazing with these character designs! :XD:
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Purple-Demon Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2012
This looks so amazing i love all the detail in it :)
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loverofmythology Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
i can't wait for the comics to come out @_@
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